tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post7100160540258084304..comments2023-09-17T04:46:20.879-07:00Comments on Eclipse Aviation Critic NG: Goodbye, Mr. ChipsShane Pricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07181451780244241883noreply@blogger.comBlogger572125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-35812038240596831712008-08-04T03:35:00.000-07:002008-08-04T03:35:00.000-07:00New post up.Good news, for a change....New post up.<BR/><BR/>Good news, for a change....Shane Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06571348452899329376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-79202919192160298322008-08-04T02:53:00.000-07:002008-08-04T02:53:00.000-07:00freedom#Lot of truth in what you wrote about ..."i...freedom<BR/><BR/>#Lot of truth in what you wrote about ..."it is a form of democracy ruled by the bureaucrats that "know what is best for you".#<BR/><BR/>do you try to compare those ones , to the UNelected ones who thought it could be a good idea to ruin a country for 1 or 2 generations ? (Fed)fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-31697929981686260872008-08-04T02:32:00.000-07:002008-08-04T02:32:00.000-07:00coming back on the IPO subject :i can't stop laugh...coming back on the IPO subject :<BR/><BR/>i can't stop laughing about this ...<BR/><BR/>do these guys know that the dot.com era is dead ?<BR/><BR/>the time when any kind of S-bag could make a start-up and have it bought thru an IPO basically selling the idea that something doing nothing , earning nothing , worth nothing could have some value on stock-market ...<BR/>is definitely gone (until most forget the whole scam and prepare themselves to be dried-up again !)<BR/><BR/>in the same way HOW could IPO work for EAC ?<BR/><BR/>the concept is to take a share of ownership to slice the eventual profits and /or success by taking care of some of the risks , mainly by putting some cash in the project ...<BR/><BR/>i really do not see HOW it could work here ???<BR/> EAC is never going to profitable ...!<BR/><BR/>they are either trapped into the Low-pricing scam (where building cost more than selling = madness!)with some possibilities of selling ...<BR/><BR/>or into rising price to substantials profits and then no customers ...<BR/><BR/>not even talking about all "free" promised ...<BR/><BR/>and not about the 1 Billion 300+ , some previous victims err investors are probably willing to see back one day ...!!<BR/><BR/>complete madness , it only comfort me in the idea that it is different management but remain the same shit ...!fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-7466442390452406302008-08-04T02:18:00.000-07:002008-08-04T02:18:00.000-07:00freedom :as far as i know the Glosnass is supposed...freedom :<BR/><BR/>as far as i know the Glosnass is supposed to more or less integrated into E-Gps ...!<BR/><BR/>if it ever happen ...!<BR/><BR/>one of the biggest problem with the Today GPS is unreliability !<BR/><BR/>as during the past festivities in Iraq and/or when some kind of officials go to say hello to GI's there the signal is downgraded partly due to Jamming in case of something ...<BR/><BR/>at same time , i don't think it's a good idea to base your activities on a device or system you do not control or have no word on how it is used ... (such as Gps)fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-8329122046787322832008-08-04T01:53:00.000-07:002008-08-04T01:53:00.000-07:00Baron95 wrote:A more pertinent question is when wi...Baron95 wrote:<BR/><I>A more pertinent question is when will EASA Eurocontrol get their arses into the 21st Century and stop requiring 1930s (ADF) and 1950s (DME) outmoded navigation equipment on 21st Century planes. Come on already!!!! Here in the colonies, we have been using GPS to substitute for both for a couple of decades now. I know Europe is the "old" continent and all, but how "old" do you need to be?<BR/><BR/>How do the pilot/citzzens put up with that crap is beyond me. Oh, I forgot, it is a form of democracy ruled by the bureaucrats that "know what is best for you".<BR/><BR/>Oh well - how quaint. I'll go to the airport tomorrow, see if I can find ANY plane with an ADF, and find ANY airport with an ADF approach and fly it in memory of EASA/Eurocontrol. Cheers.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Lot of truth in what you wrote about ..."it is a form of democracy ruled by the bureaucrats that "know what is best for you".<BR/><BR/>Problem around moving to GPS data for flight is that it is an incredibly weak signal on a single frequency (the second frequency is military only), and thus very easy to jam. Also the system owner refuses to enter into any civilian contract concerning availablity.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately the German government created an instant market for civilian GPS jammers by doing truck road user pricing based on GPS data.<BR/><BR/>I believe the road map for Eurocontrol does imagine decommisioning NDBs, sometime in the next twenty years, but also picture a huge expansion in the number of DMEs (won't happen).<BR/><BR/>The European GPS satellite system (if it ever happens) should add two more discrete frequencies, and the Russian Glosnass (or whatever it is called) is also supposed to be patched up to add it's frequency. Then sometime in 2050 the eurocontrol bureaucrats will be confident that they have a robust satellite based system (by which time it will be as obselete as NDB's :)FreedomsJamtartshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18240818544017409683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-86941629049268064362008-08-03T23:39:00.000-07:002008-08-03T23:39:00.000-07:00baron95 :yes , here we are the "old continent" .....baron95 :<BR/><BR/>yes , here we are the "old continent" ...<BR/><BR/>are we better or worse ?<BR/><BR/>anyway it is none of your business !<BR/><BR/>as long as we remain true to ourselves ...!<BR/><BR/>you don't like it ? wow, that's too bad ...! ;-)))fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-70094134184692434032008-08-03T23:36:00.000-07:002008-08-03T23:36:00.000-07:00baron :stop honoring me by saying shane sounds lik...baron :<BR/><BR/>stop honoring me by saying shane sounds like me ...!!<BR/><BR/>shane :<BR/><BR/>yes , i got the picture ...:-))<BR/>nonetheless , i think i can say "we love you " !!<BR/><BR/>as for you hair turning grey since you host the blog , you deserve a cheer !<BR/><BR/>give me the name of your favorite "black irish liquid stuff" dealer , i'll call them to say "his drinks (s because i know a bit irish) are on me ...! " ;-))fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-72533877240072021292008-08-03T21:55:00.000-07:002008-08-03T21:55:00.000-07:00Dave - I might be confusing them with somebody els...Dave - I might be confusing them with somebody else, but I believe Harbour is the premier source on Earth for DeHavilland Beaver restoration & upgrades - including zero-timing an airframe. At one time, ISTR on their website the claim that they were the only airline on earth that "made their own aircraft" (which implies that they acquired the TC from DH - I'm uncertain).<BR/><BR/>Dave,<BR/><BR/>I think you mean Viking Air. See www.vikingair.com<BR/><BR/>They say the following on their website...<BR/><BR/>"Viking is a first tier original equipment manufactuer (OEM) specializing in de Havilland aircraft products. Viking is the type certificate holder for the DHC-2 Beaver,DHC-2T Turbo Beaver, DHC-3 Otter, DHC-6 Twin Otter, DHC-4 Caribou, DHC-5 Buffalo and DHC-7 Dash 7 aircraft."<BR/><BR/>They also install Chelton products in DHC-2s. Nice.<BR/><BR/>JeffUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09276070546933651497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-78782521244452184992008-08-03T21:33:00.000-07:002008-08-03T21:33:00.000-07:00Sparky said... but wasn't there something about no...<I>Sparky said... but wasn't there something about not being able to have work done on the fpj by anyone other than a certified repair center? </I><BR/><BR/>There is a limitation on the Eclipse TC that says ONLY ECLIPSE can make any major alteration to the instrument pannel/avionics/cockpit.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps that is what you are referring to. So, for example, I could not start my company to put a G-1000 SVS on Eclipse planes like I could do on a King Air. Doing so is not permited by the Eclipse TC/AFM.<BR/><BR/>Bummer. I have the biz plan all ready to go. Maybe I can hire Sandra or Leslie or whatever the name of the Eclipse's lawyer was.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-81393365615373255072008-08-03T21:28:00.000-07:002008-08-03T21:28:00.000-07:00Shane said ... I am sorry if my frustrations are l...<I>Shane said ... I am sorry if my frustrations are leaking out a little, but some of the emails I read come from real people who have been badly hurt by their 'association' with EAC. </I><BR/><BR/>Fair enough. I can see how observing and reading about Eclipse's dealings can exasperate even a Scott, let alone an Irish lad. ;)<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, I see no great need for to feel sorry or be anointed the defenders of anyone dealing with Eclipse.<BR/><BR/>ANY party dealing with Eclipse should know that:<BR/><BR/>a - It was too good to be true (be it an $850K jet in 4 years, or stock options, or a contract to sell thousands of shipsets/year).<BR/><BR/>b - Dealing with a startup company, innexperienced in a demanding field like aviation and full of hyperbole is almost 100% agambling.<BR/><BR/>These are all smart, experience, financially successful people, that knew (or should have known) what they were doing. If someone that is sitting on a speculative Eclipse position gets burned, so be it. They went for the high-risk, high-reward play that more often than not ends up badly. their choice.<BR/><BR/>I see the role of the blog as two fold:<BR/><BR/>1 - A place to gather information that is a counterpoint to the Eclipse hyperbole and the tow the line press.<BR/><BR/>2 - As a way to embarass the press to ask and report on the shortcomings of Eclipse.<BR/><BR/>Cheers.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-83603794435673911142008-08-03T20:49:00.000-07:002008-08-03T20:49:00.000-07:00“No one was hurt . . .”The legal ramifications in ...“No one was hurt . . .”<BR/><BR/>The legal ramifications in view of a little girl’s trauma are almost endless.<BR/><BR/>“No one was hurt . . .”? Somehow, that may be a premature statement by a reporter, unqualified to make such a diagnosis, or assessment. <BR/><BR/>Maybe a more accurate statement would have been, ‘No one appeared to be physically hurt . . .’<BR/><BR/>Trauma may be “unexpected or unpredictable” . . . and someone may just have a field day with that characterization of the second incident.<BR/><BR/>gadfly<BR/><BR/>(‘Living up to my name.)gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191372920897029941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-3531651756424804502008-08-03T19:59:00.000-07:002008-08-03T19:59:00.000-07:00Craft N118EA flies to Europe today<A HREF="http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N118EA/history" REL="nofollow"> Craft N118EA flies to Europe today </A>xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14983198179958944824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-8000911309142274572008-08-03T19:53:00.000-07:002008-08-03T19:53:00.000-07:00One must wonder how quickly Eclipse will now cance...One must wonder how quickly Eclipse will now cancel their advertising with Aero News, now that Corporal Zoomer's best buddy Vern has been ousted. Somehow, I just can't see Roel and the Russians wasting money on a rag like ANN...<BR/><BR/>Should this happen, it will be VERY interesting to see if ANN finally starts practicing "real" journalism RE: Eclipse Aviation, if only out of spite (check the web, Zoomer's done it before.)<BR/><BR/>Fun times.ZoomZoomZoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06703566533578411548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-78626592312557356292008-08-03T19:05:00.000-07:002008-08-03T19:05:00.000-07:00It’s easy to get off on the financial stuff . . . ...It’s easy to get off on the financial stuff . . . nothing wrong with that. And if we dig deep enough, even the local news will bring up some things that tend to be “politically correct”, with the same level of impact as a cat rescued from a tree.<BR/><BR/>There was a time when “news” was new, and to the point. Now it's usually a day late, a dollar short, and so “lame” . . . it’s no wonder that newspapers and broadcast news (90 seconds to cover the entire world) are in trouble.<BR/><BR/>It took a few reports, and a few days, for a 30 second news report to talk about the latest crash . . . and there’s still confusion as to whether the little bird was “taking off” or “landing”.<BR/><BR/>But now and then, we find a truly newsworthy item. ‘How ‘bout that single sentence that reported the pilot sitting with his (five year old) daughter . . . the “other” person on board, to comfort her after the crash.<BR/><BR/>If we forget that the most important element of the little jet is not the finances, nor the construction, but the precious cargo that it carries . . . well, we’ve missed the basics.<BR/><BR/>gadfly<BR/><BR/>(Wilbur and Orville used “wing warping” to great advantage. Today it’s not the “wings” that are warped.)gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191372920897029941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-87333282184097433382008-08-03T18:28:00.000-07:002008-08-03T18:28:00.000-07:00What part of DOA is confusing some of you? Why wo...What part of DOA is confusing some of you? Why would anyone "salvage" this Eclipse disaster? Who has patients or time to deal with all these problems that we know of and I'm sure many more that we don't. <BR/><BR/>If I was a Boeing or whomever and wanted a VLJ I would start with a clean sheet of paper and my reputation. I would have the engineers, I have the suppliers, I have the ability. With no "tip tanks", liabilities, throttle issues, forward swept wings, updates, INOP stickers, door issues, windshield issues, parts falling off issues, 50K per month in soda issues, disgruntled employees, and a built in culture of failure. <BR/><BR/>What is Eclipse? Some building's that are a poor layout for producing AC? Some of them are a few miles apart. Some inventory that don't match the DWG because of poor quality control? Middle management from Intel that don't understand manufacturing? Stiffed suppliers? Some poorly designed fixtures? Some fasteners and drill bits? Some tables and chairs? Some inexpierenced manufacturing employees? (most of the good ones are contractors and have left or are looking really hard) <BR/><BR/>The question remains. What are you getting and who would even want it?<BR/><BR/>Service on some low hour problematic AC with the OEM vaporized? Sounds like a headache to me.uglytruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02719619851960327393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-53250043273785185432008-08-03T18:27:00.000-07:002008-08-03T18:27:00.000-07:00yeah, well - us old guys think alike. My brother ...yeah, well - us old guys think alike. My brother Wilbur got it too. :)Orvillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14106058671186471102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-53625971205525696242008-08-03T18:24:00.000-07:002008-08-03T18:24:00.000-07:00OrvilleYou win the prize . . . having understood p...Orville<BR/><BR/>You win the prize . . . having understood precisely my intent!<BR/><BR/>gadfly<BR/><BR/>(I've been accused of being too vague.)gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191372920897029941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-15522975456001231112008-08-03T18:20:00.000-07:002008-08-03T18:20:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191372920897029941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-65980528621217846602008-08-03T18:18:00.000-07:002008-08-03T18:18:00.000-07:00'Rinse', as in what EAC does to its victims, er, c...'Rinse', as in what EAC does to its victims, er, customers, before they hang them out to dry.ChickNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17871404217605598821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-35430080753818941092008-08-03T18:07:00.000-07:002008-08-03T18:07:00.000-07:00Gad - were you referring to the 'spin cycle' as wh...Gad - were you referring to the 'spin cycle' as what happens when you can't shut down 1 engine - and the 'rinse' as the magic foam shutdown agent? :)Orvillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14106058671186471102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-82641085929302372852008-08-03T17:48:00.001-07:002008-08-03T17:48:00.001-07:00With the little jet they could add a spin cycle!ga...With the little jet they could add a spin cycle!<BR/><BR/>gadfly<BR/><BR/>(And the extra rinse.)gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191372920897029941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-28211927846919399192008-08-03T17:48:00.000-07:002008-08-03T17:48:00.000-07:00FlightAware has a relatively new feature that let'...FlightAware has a relatively new feature that let's people upload pictures of specific aircraft and tie them to its N-number. If you look up <A HREF="http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N333MY" REL="nofollow">N333MY </A>on FlightAware, you'll see that someone uploaded a crash picture.<BR/><BR/>Great little editorial for the FPJ.Orvillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14106058671186471102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-63599192871101441802008-08-03T17:12:00.000-07:002008-08-03T17:12:00.000-07:00I wouldn't expect Harbour Air to do a good job.Tur...<I>I wouldn't expect Harbour Air to do a good job.</I><BR/><BR/>Turns out I was mistaken. Loading the wash machine, I realized that I was thinking of <A HREF="http://www.kenmoreair.com/" REL="nofollow">these guys</A>.<BR/><BR/>Would you like the Wrinkle Guard?<BR/>IANALPawnShophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07091676046998796061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-39639016919350103092008-08-03T17:07:00.000-07:002008-08-03T17:07:00.000-07:00EAC don't listen to the likes of me.Perhaps not - ...<I>EAC don't listen to the likes of me.</I><BR/><BR/>Perhaps not - but they certainly do <I>read</I> you!PawnShophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07091676046998796061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-91152650555024009712008-08-03T16:32:00.000-07:002008-08-03T16:32:00.000-07:00AT,Did you call Baron a master debater? lol. Could...AT,<BR/><BR/>Did you call Baron a master debater? lol. Couldn't resist.Shadowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12180707357967808938noreply@blogger.com