tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post5713938034397140832..comments2023-09-17T04:46:20.879-07:00Comments on Eclipse Aviation Critic NG: Close to a Total Eclipse?Shane Pricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07181451780244241883noreply@blogger.comBlogger251125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-62969062572611282232008-08-22T12:14:00.000-07:002008-08-22T12:14:00.000-07:00E-mail to CEO/Chairman XXXXX Company 22August2008E...E-mail to CEO/Chairman XXXXX Company 22August2008<BR/><BR/>ECLIPSE SITUATION<BR/> <BR/>Hi XXXXX --<BR/><BR/>I think it will get much worse, and looking at clues I don't think Eclipse<BR/>will be around much longer in their current form. This may have<BR/>significant impact on NXXXXX being a viable tool for XXXXX business use.<BR/><BR/>1. The FAA is conducting a major review of the EA500.<BR/>2. Eclipse has announced major lay offs.<BR/>3. Many suppliers are shutting down affecting parts availability.<BR/>4. Production is halting which means no cash flow.<BR/>5. Bad press which will only get worse as FAA review is conducted.<BR/>6. Layoffs will affect Avio NG upgrade and current mx.<BR/>7. Pending additional bad press and regulatory directives on engine shutdowns.<BR/>8. Pending additional bad press and regulatory directives on fire retardant cabin and cockpit.<BR/>9. Bad press about the bad press and much more during the review and hearings.<BR/><BR/>I just wanted to pass this on given the record of NXXXXX's past reliability. The<BR/>circumstances will only get worse, and the Eclipse will have all eyes focused<BR/>on it during this tribulation. We are moving ahead into an icing period which our<BR/>Eclipse is not certified.<BR/><BR/>I feel duty-bound as a XXXXX employee to make you aware of the full<BR/>ramifications of the current events at Eclipse. We will try our best to keep<BR/>it flying, but you as well as I know what the past track record has been<BR/>on this aircraft. My number one duty as a pilot for this company is safety.<BR/><BR/>Thank you.<BR/><BR/>XXXXXairjethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12030385365711391906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-88949168159418726432008-08-21T11:44:00.000-07:002008-08-21T11:44:00.000-07:00And I hope that this is a trend that sticks. We ne...<I>And I hope that this is a trend that sticks. We need to find the problems before fatalities happen. The goal should be ZERO fatalities in aviation. </I><BR/><BR/>On this we agree. It seems like usually actions are taken reactively rather than proactively. I'm not just talking about the FAA, but also the DOJ, etc. They're usually there to pick up the pieces once the damage has either literally or figuratively been done, rather than stop the damage in the first place.<BR/><BR/><I>I hope this SCR is not a cover my ass -inspired event, but rather a proactive response to SDR and NASA aviation reporting forms.</I><BR/><BR/>Don't get your hopes up. The investigation is being headed up by an aircraft industry lobbyist. The FAA is just trying to cover-up rather than clean-up, but they'll get nailed.<BR/><BR/>Also here's the official calendar for the hearing:<BR/><I>Hearing<BR/>FAA Aircraft Certification: Alleged Regulatory Lapses in the Certification and Manufacture of the Eclipse EA-500<BR/>September 17, 2008 </I><BR/>http://transportation.house.gov/News/PRArticle.aspx?newsid=736Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08301246864437379349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-25013128388309355552008-08-21T11:40:00.000-07:002008-08-21T11:40:00.000-07:00New post up.Again.This thing is moving very, very ...New post up.<BR/><BR/>Again.<BR/><BR/>This thing is moving very, very quickly.<BR/><BR/>ShaneShane Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181451780244241883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-34575976788909320372008-08-21T11:26:00.001-07:002008-08-21T11:26:00.001-07:00From the link above... "The Eclipse 500 has the di...From the link above... "The Eclipse 500 has the distinction of being the only aircraft to receive a SCR without having been involved in an accident resulting in an injury or fatality. It is believed that the F.A.A. initiated the SCR as a response to an abnormally high number of Service Difficulty Reports sent from Eclipse 500 operators."<BR/><BR/>And I hope that this is a trend that sticks. We need to find the problems before fatalities happen. The goal should be ZERO fatalities in aviation. The western ailines are virtually there - WN has been there for decades. Business Jet Aviation is basically there also. Now lets put personal turbine flying there. Followed by all GA flying. That has to be the goal.<BR/><BR/>For that, the FAA/NTSB need to look at trends OUTSIDE of accidents/incidents. They need to look at de-stabilized approaches, at substandard training, improper IFR, incomplete/complex A/C systems, etc.<BR/><BR/>I hope this SCR is not a cover my ass -inspired event, but rather a proactive response to SDR and NASA aviation reporting forms.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-66007260285327677132008-08-21T11:26:00.000-07:002008-08-21T11:26:00.000-07:00From the 2006 grievance:As a reminder, the safety ...From the 2006 grievance:<BR/><I>As a reminder, the safety mission is to keep safe the lives of the flying public and not to “save companies”.</I><BR/>http://www.avweb.com/newspics/grievance-EclipseTC-AIR402.pdfDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08301246864437379349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-87321943453886314672008-08-21T11:08:00.000-07:002008-08-21T11:08:00.000-07:00They ran out of duct tape?I guess service parts re...<I>They ran out of duct tape?</I><BR/><BR/>I guess service parts really ARE hard to come by.Orvillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14106058671186471102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-6570026573281354652008-08-21T11:03:00.000-07:002008-08-21T11:03:00.000-07:00That was some tailwind...Flight Aware makes mistak...<A HREF="http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N615RH/history/20080718/1742Z/KABQ/KGPH" REL="nofollow">That was some tailwind...</A><BR/><BR/>Flight Aware makes mistakes, too.<BR/>Let's see ... 641 NM ... 13 minutes ... nearly 3000kts!<BR/><BR/>No wonder an engine carboned up.<BR/><BR/>Would you like that Cajun style?<BR/>DIPawnShophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07091676046998796061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-14319317300080660772008-08-21T10:53:00.000-07:002008-08-21T10:53:00.000-07:00"after 12 weeks spent AOG there"They ran out of du..."after 12 weeks spent AOG there"<BR/><BR/>They ran out of duct tape?airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-52561152255353134822008-08-21T10:40:00.000-07:002008-08-21T10:40:00.000-07:00For a little insight on how retrofits are going, N...For a little insight on how retrofits are going, N168TT ( s/n 00042 ) is headed to Garden City, KS by way of Frankfort, KY from Albany - <A HREF="http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N168TT/history/20080821/1540Z/KALB/KFFT" REL="nofollow">after 12 weeks spent AOG there</A>...<BR/><BR/>I'll get that for you by Next Tuesday,<BR/>DIPawnShophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07091676046998796061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-6984217647848890942008-08-21T10:14:00.000-07:002008-08-21T10:14:00.000-07:00engpilotder:Thanks for the clarification on the FA...engpilotder:<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the clarification on the FAR interpretation. I had assumed the only way to certify was that engine shutdown couldn't be considered probable. This isn't something I've ever substantiated (the engine specific part).<BR/><BR/>Regarding this tease:<BR/><BR/><I>consider the fact that the FAA has already found compliance to 14 CFR Part 23.841 Amdt. 23-49 with respect to a single engine aircraft. The precedence has been set, but the blog overlooked it.</I><BR/><BR/>Come on, what's the example? We know that the FAR's earlier amendment said 31000 ft and this is what most SE turboprops are certified to....Formerly known as "Just zis guy, you know?"https://www.blogger.com/profile/11560627523886302864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-14607613292143431592008-08-21T10:07:00.000-07:002008-08-21T10:07:00.000-07:00Dave I., is the Halogen Jet Guides piece an actual...Dave I., is the Halogen Jet Guides piece an actual article or just a blog entry? It's kind of hard to tell.Shadowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12180707357967808938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-1510342249307489342008-08-21T08:53:00.000-07:002008-08-21T08:53:00.000-07:00AIA press release of Eclipse become the 100th memb...AIA press release of Eclipse become the 100th member:<BR/>http://www.aia-aerospace.org/aianews/press/2004/rel_11_18_04_b.cfmDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08301246864437379349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-52949817129922957022008-08-21T08:35:00.000-07:002008-08-21T08:35:00.000-07:00Here's some interesting posts by DayJet's ...Here's some interesting posts by DayJet's Director of IT:<BR/>http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3759865&SiteID=17&pageid=0<BR/><BR/>Also this from earlier:<BR/><I>To that end, the company has been changing the problem inside its simulators every day for the past four and a half years, looking for those broad mesas of good solutions. And after a million or so spins of the VOC, DayJet has produced a clear vision of the total market and its likely place in it. Iacobucci expects to siphon off somewhere between 1% and 1.5% of all regional business trips within DayJet's markets by 2008, with "regional trips" defined as being between 100 and 500 miles. In the southeast states the company initially has its eye on, that's 500,000 to 750,000 trips a year, out of a total of 52 million, more than 80% of which are currently traversed by car.</I><BR/>http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2008/01/15/TheNextBigThing.aspxDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08301246864437379349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-83530110064830796332008-08-21T08:07:00.000-07:002008-08-21T08:07:00.000-07:00From Alec Rosekrans at Halogen Guides, Eclipse In ...From Alec Rosekrans at Halogen Guides, <A HREF="http://jets.halogenguides.com/articles/1403-eclipse-in-hot-water-with-congress-and-the-faa" REL="nofollow">Eclipse In Hot Water...</A><BR/><BR/>While Google news indicated 198 ( or so ) articles about the recent FAA actions, they are virtually ALL identical to some base press release on the subject. It's nice to see somebody use that as a mere starting point to tie a number of threads together into a short article worth reading.<BR/><BR/>Pull around to the second window,<BR/>DIPawnShophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07091676046998796061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-1367253204348215492008-08-21T06:15:00.000-07:002008-08-21T06:15:00.000-07:00To follow up my own post, here's something from th...To follow up my own post, here's something from the pJet site:<BR/><BR/>"One of a pilot’s prime concerns is cabin decompression at high altitudes. In the event an engine fails at 35,000 feet, the cabin will not experience a rapid decompression. Instead, pressure will leak out of the cabin at a much slower rate. If the cabin were to reach an altitude of 15,000 feet, an automatic emergency oxygen system will deploy oxygen masks to the pilot and passengers with enough oxygen for the entire emergency descent profile."<BR/><BR/>- the implication being that it's acceptable to provide oxygen instead of keeping the cabin below 15000ft.<BR/><BR/>The piper site's got some decent material about the design of the pJet - not sure if the link's been posted before, but here it is:<BR/>http://www.newpiper.com/piperjet/<BR/>http://www.newpiper.com/piperjet/Cerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13532529144940481480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-70561249904329587172008-08-21T06:11:00.000-07:002008-08-21T06:11:00.000-07:00Engpilotder: "If the above two items do not provid...Engpilotder: "If the above two items do not provide at least the possibility that some of the statements on the blog are incorrect, then consider the fact that the FAA has already found compliance to 14 CFR Part 23.841 Amdt. 23-49 with respect to a single engine aircraft. The precedence has been set, but the blog overlooked it."<BR/><BR/>Interesting post, thank you. <BR/><BR/>A bunch of people on the blog are always interested in this topic, so it would be nice to have more detail. <BR/>Which aircraft are you referring to? <BR/>Could you give us an overview of its pressurization system?Cerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13532529144940481480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-1286838440477259742008-08-21T05:34:00.000-07:002008-08-21T05:34:00.000-07:00airsafety ...nothing surprise me , anymore !how ma...airsafety ...<BR/><BR/>nothing surprise me , anymore !<BR/><BR/>how many of you knows that Amid Karzhaï (actual President of Afghanistan) is a former consultant of Connoco-Oil and Haliburton ? <BR/><BR/>freely elected ? <BR/><BR/>what a joke !<BR/><BR/>the same with this : if anything goes wrong for top-brass , they will blame the ones in charge of investigations ...<BR/><BR/>if nothing goes wrong = nothing will be found ...!fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-20652714319379375702008-08-21T05:23:00.000-07:002008-08-21T05:23:00.000-07:00You will never guess who is one of the 105 full-ti...You will never guess who is one of the 105 full-time members who make up the membership of the Aerospace Industries Association, the lobbying group headed up by our very own Mz Marion. They can't make the customer refunds but they can keep those industry association dues up to speed!airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-23302873908608333422008-08-21T04:41:00.000-07:002008-08-21T04:41:00.000-07:00In his book "Gorky Park" author Martin Cruz Smith ...In his book "Gorky Park" author Martin Cruz Smith has his main character, detective Arkady Renko, make the following observation: "The purpose of an official investigation is not to find the truth, the purpose is to avoid finding the truth at all costs". (Not an exact quote). I think most people here realize that if the FAA team did their job Mz. Marion Blakey would be out of her cushy lobbyist job and slinging burgers on K Street instead, if not actially in jail. This is damage control from the start. Think of the Army's investigation of the prison scandals in Iraq, a few Army gomers from West Virginia were sent to prison and had their lives destroyed while Rumsfeld putters around writing his memoirs.airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-41930604671565483992008-08-21T01:55:00.000-07:002008-08-21T01:55:00.000-07:0020Yryou probably got me wrong :whatever are /was y...20Yr<BR/><BR/>you probably got me wrong :<BR/><BR/>whatever are /was your reasons , they are yours !<BR/><BR/>when i see a bad worker (not aimed at you ) keeping his job or a good worker not asked to do his best ...<BR/><BR/>only one question come to my mind :<BR/>are you sure the management has any talent ?<BR/><BR/>you reminded me of an other life , when working in W.S. , i had a final argument with my then boss ...<BR/>i told him :<BR/>"we cannot say anything to anyone just for the sake of making money !"<BR/>his answer : "aren't you paid enough to shut-up ?"fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-54528810517165980542008-08-21T01:52:00.000-07:002008-08-21T01:52:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-41798351297174164452008-08-21T01:12:00.000-07:002008-08-21T01:12:00.000-07:00I stayed in ABQ for LOVE, Not for Money, that is t...I stayed in ABQ for LOVE, Not for Money, that is the fact and that is why I still live in ABQ and am now on the road working. I can make more money at other places that is for sure. You can only due what they ask and if you know its wrong and you challenge it, then your ethics are in tact as was mine. They dont like to change the blueprints even when there WRONG. That is whey I couldnt wait for them to get audited by the feds.<BR/><BR/>I hope they hold the cocky f**k Vern accountable for any events that happen in that piece of S**T.<BR/><BR/>As I always said "THEY WONT LEARN UNTIL THEY PUT ONE IN THE DIRT"<BR/><BR/>20YM20yearmechanichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05839014864876780897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-580816721239085862008-08-21T00:52:00.000-07:002008-08-21T00:52:00.000-07:0020yr :if you stayed with EAC for $$$ :it is fine f...20yr :<BR/><BR/>if you stayed with EAC for $$$ :<BR/>it is fine for you !<BR/><BR/>if they didn't see the point of taking out your best(for what they paid you) :<BR/>the pox on them !<BR/><BR/>the problem would be if you did or corrected "substandard" and chose to just shut-up ...<BR/><BR/>often when someone has to hide something , they call the curse on the ones who are outspoken enough about their part of guilt in the problem ...!!fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-78538467162906439452008-08-21T00:39:00.000-07:002008-08-21T00:39:00.000-07:00ceri :#Note that I'm not so naive as to think the ...ceri :<BR/><BR/>#Note that I'm not so naive as to think the the FAA will do the right thing because it's their job to protect the public.#<BR/><BR/>partly being from a country where there is lots (with more than one s) of peoples to "protect" us [France]...<BR/>i can tell you this :<BR/><BR/>anywhere on earth when some are given the task to protect others , they always end-up protecting theirs ass first ! some even take advantage of it ...<BR/><BR/>often it's a good sign of the degree of "political maturation" ...<BR/><BR/>baron <BR/><BR/>surprisingly enough , i discover you as more balanced than i thought ...<BR/><BR/>yes , EAC was quite successful as a start-up ...<BR/><BR/>unfortunately , the worst disease on them for using the dream they created into the mind of customers , for their own (and sole) benefit ! <BR/><BR/>if they would have sticked with good practices (or clear , that would have been something already!) , it could have been something good ...<BR/><BR/>self-inflated ego , blunt stupidity and mismanagement leaded to something which is not only a disgrace for any entrepreneurial spirit , but as well unsafe and way too expensive for what it is really ...! <BR/><BR/>i agree that in any "story" there are good and bad ...<BR/>nothing can be 100% good or bad ...<BR/>it's only up to anybody to see what are the + and the - ...<BR/><BR/>without pink-goggles on or only bad ideas ...!fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-78679022311404823032008-08-21T00:30:00.000-07:002008-08-21T00:30:00.000-07:00Kathy said... 20yr, we hope is enjoying the Hummer...<I>Kathy said... <BR/>20yr, we hope is enjoying the Hummer! If he's registered with the FAA as an A&P he's admitted numerous times to engaging in "substandard work"...which is kind of like disregarding the oath of a Doctor! With the other jobs he's supposedly been invited to he chose to stay with EAC....HIS DECISION as it was....for the per diem and $$$. Was, is and will be a 20YR hack. He should go do C & D's on old heavy junk...and not work on an EFIS corporate jet!</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>Now I don’t recall ever saying I engaged in substandard work, I FIXED ALLOT OF SUBSTANDARD WORK, and was told to do things that I knew was wrong (reported it). I bucked the system, and ECLIPSE Management soon after was looking for any excuse to get rid of me and labeling me A TROUBLE MAKER. I assure you that I have given a FULL REPORT to the investigator that is conducting the investigation for the congressional hearings that is coming up un September. FURTHER MORE I WILL TESTIFY if asked and I have a truck load of info and facts to unload to them, things I choose not to divulge here on the blog. WHY? Because it would scare the s**t out of most people, and I have fully disclosed all my info to this investigator. Thanks to Shane for putting him in touch with me. In fact KATHY! I have been dropping info to a certain ABQ JOURNAL reporter since June of 2007. DO I GIVE A F**K about a NDA? Hell Know I Don’t. I worry more about the people that fly and peoples lives, than profit or how much money I can make. If you have a misguided opinion of me, that is your problem. But I can assure you that I don’t give a s**t about being blackballed or being called a nark for telling it like it is at ECLIPSE. More people that worked there should come forward but wont because they don’t have the balls. For that alone they should lose there A&P license. I can confidently say the the ECLIPSE 500 is the biggest piece of S**T that I have ever worked on. Even if I did stay there to try to make a difference, the egotistical and arrogant management was not going to allow anyone with any knowledge of production, to change there FORD MOTOR CO way of thinking. THEY WILL ALL GET WHATS COMING TO THEM SOON.<BR/><BR/>Love 20 YM20yearmechanichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05839014864876780897noreply@blogger.com