tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post3594981335874140479..comments2023-09-17T04:46:20.879-07:00Comments on Eclipse Aviation Critic NG: REFLECTIONS ON THE ECLIPSE SAGAShane Pricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07181451780244241883noreply@blogger.comBlogger211125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-5431085609177768472009-07-05T20:57:58.523-07:002009-07-05T20:57:58.523-07:00Black Tulip,
Denis Finch-Hutton says to Karen Von...Black Tulip,<br /><br />Denis Finch-Hutton says to Karen Von Blixen (Isak Denison)as he hands her a pen as a gift. "In Africa, we pay our story tellers..."<br /><br />"My stories are free and your present is much too dear."<br /><br />"Right them down somtime."<br /><br />"Good-bye Finch-Hutton."<br /><br />-Out of Africa-<br /><br />Your a good story teller Tulip... <br /><br />Floating CloudFloating Cloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05299351963639492717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-3972245172055226362009-06-30T07:47:39.403-07:002009-06-30T07:47:39.403-07:00It seems fitting that Black Tulip should be one of...It seems fitting that Black Tulip should be one of the last to comment here.<br /><br />Even if he's being a bit 'bold' with his suggestions....<br /><br />My final headline, together with a link to our new 'home' has just been posted.<br /><br />A sincere thank you to all who contributed, and thanks also to the even wider circle who told their friends to read our discussions.<br /><br />May all your troubles be little ones.<br /><br />ShaneShane Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181451780244241883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-73293926217700537852009-06-30T05:52:45.404-07:002009-06-30T05:52:45.404-07:00Airline News:
General Airlines is merging with Al...Airline News:<br /><br />General Airlines is merging with Alitalia Airlines. I hesitate to write the name of the new combined carrier as impressionable children might be reading the blog.Black Tuliphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04657938226341343450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-89462144665481156172009-06-30T05:16:09.490-07:002009-06-30T05:16:09.490-07:00Fred, Haven't had the opportunity of flying In...Fred, Haven't had the opportunity of flying Indonesian Airlines, but I will try them if the opportunity comes up, thanks! I always try to fly a good foreign airline when traveling overseas, because I am so tired of being jerked around by the US carriers on domestic flights.airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-56890516059208278862009-06-30T04:50:32.928-07:002009-06-30T04:50:32.928-07:00Wrong Button ...Grrr !
A380 on Indonesian Airline...Wrong Button ...Grrr !<br /><br />A380 on Indonesian Airlines ...?<br /><br />a bit pricey , but treated like a real king , every and each passenger !<br /><br />that should be the standards !!!fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-51465433893501333222009-06-30T04:33:07.452-07:002009-06-30T04:33:07.452-07:00Monsieur Shane :
are you suggesting that Irish wo...Monsieur Shane :<br /><br />are you suggesting that Irish women are sadly "a bit less" attractive than eastern european ones ??? ;-)<br /><br />it is only a question of taste ...<br /><br />and a question of balance ( you know the thing you cannot miss if you keep your eyes open ...)<br /><br />no need to be a platinium-bla-bla ... to get good service :<br /><br />only a question of discernment !<br /><br />ASM : yes , i understand well what you mean in First Class ...<br />have you ever tried A380fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-86980087832990179222009-06-30T04:22:07.186-07:002009-06-30T04:22:07.186-07:00It never ceases to amaze me how some people want t...<i> It never ceases to amaze me how some people want to dictate how others "should" spend their money.</i> ...<br /><br />no !<br /><br />everybody is free to spend as he wish ...<br /><br />ONLY one condition : do not expect any consideration because you did it from others who do not give a damn about !<br /><br />On the GreyHound-airlines :<br /><br />A Yemenite Airbus 310 crashed into the sea while attempting an approach in Comoros ...<br /><br />The comorians gave a nickname to this plane which was 20 years old (and already forbidden to fly over France ) "Flying Coffin" <br /><br />(seats broken , overcrowding of plane = sometimes 2 persons per seat , mice and rats seen on plane , toilets broken [ our dear Toilets-Traveler is going to be shocked ! ;-) ] etc... etc...)<br /><br />Real Capitalism at works !!fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-59627161241047441882009-06-30T04:02:42.598-07:002009-06-30T04:02:42.598-07:00Baron, Frequently I have to travel on short notice...Baron, Frequently I have to travel on short notice. Often the only seats available are in first class, so I am very familiar with the front end of the plane. I will say American's first class service is one of the very worst, a joke really. If you think that is first class I feel sorry for you. On the other hand Air France runs a first class service thet is in another league altogether. When I have a trip to Europe and can schedule Air France First Class or Business Class I take my wife and pay the cost difference out of my own pocket.airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-15597892340630476722009-06-30T02:37:17.598-07:002009-06-30T02:37:17.598-07:00Baron,
There is not a single amenity, save attrac...Baron,<br /><br /><i>There is not a single amenity, save attractive flight attendants... </i><br /><br />Can I direct your attention to the <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/photos/hollywood/ryanair-calendar-2009-front-cover-22234.aspx" rel="nofollow">Ryanair Charity Calander</a>, which may distract you from your 'premium club' mentality.<br /><br />But then again, I have the distinct impression that you wouldn't be seen dead on a Ryanair flight....<br /><br />Shane<br />PS, The girls are mostly East European, sadly...Shane Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181451780244241883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-85594038888303066562009-06-29T21:56:57.546-07:002009-06-29T21:56:57.546-07:00ASM said..."Crap on the loyal passenger
=====...ASM said..."Crap on the loyal passenger<br />======================<br /><br />You guys are out in the weeds by now. None of these baggage fees, etc, apply to premium freq flyer passengers and their flying companions, and we get automatic upgrades to the better seats.<br /><br />You guys are totally missing the point. These fees are ONE MORE way for the airlines to treat their frequent fliers well and make them feel "appreciated".<br /><br />Platinum guy can check bags for no fee, others can't.<br /><br />Platinum guy gets free upgrades to coach+, business or first. Other's don't.<br /><br />Conclusion - Platinum guy goes out of his/her way to book on that airline to maintain status and take advantage of the perks.<br /><br />Give the people in the business some credit. They know a thing or two about retaining passengers and maximizing yield, you know.<br /><br />I will go OUT OF MY WAY to book on American, and American will go out their way to come out with ways to keep it that way.<br /><br />Win/Win.<br /><br />Now for the occasional fliers who care about price - let them have the choice to pay for bags or not, pay for food or not, pay for space or not. Choice is good.<br /><br />There is not a single amenity, save attractive flight attendants and the right to smoke up the cabin, that is not available and better now than in the past. You just have to choose it and pay for it.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-60511815187253291782009-06-29T16:56:32.399-07:002009-06-29T16:56:32.399-07:00Since airline service began the full-fare paying c...Since airline service began the full-fare paying coach passenger has been the airlines revenue mainstay. In my experience first class was peopled mostly by dead-heading airline types and their spouses and brats takling about when their next bankruptcy would happen. "Crap on the loyal passenger, can I have another after-dinner apertif, please?" There is no law that says this hideous a la carte menu from Ayn Rand hell has to be the next new thing. The airlines have screwed up passenger service for the last thirty years. Why do you think they have got it right this time? Especially in the face of all their customers being pi$$ed off completely?airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-43246299806537888962009-06-29T16:18:24.915-07:002009-06-29T16:18:24.915-07:00Taximan
That's OK . . . to whom it was meant,...Taximan<br /><br />That's OK . . . to whom it was meant, they'll get the point. Or maybe not! I'm no longer surprised at anything.<br /><br />gadflygadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191372920897029941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-27495956916525730092009-06-29T16:09:52.487-07:002009-06-29T16:09:52.487-07:00I guess I am a complete moron... did not get even ...I guess I am a complete moron... did not get even an ounce of analogy or relevance out of your post, my kind friend, Gadfly...airtaximanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12977944795556689805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-74991900619077963342009-06-29T16:06:49.332-07:002009-06-29T16:06:49.332-07:00A very long time ago, we had a “pastor”, back in B...A very long time ago, we had a “pastor”, back in Burbank, California, that would sometimes use some excellent descriptions of folks, that at the times, seemed somewhat far away (his two youngest boys, “twins”, were excellent athletes . . . one became “first string center” for Stanford, and never to my knowledge backed off from a real challenge . . . he was much too short to be “center”, but that never stopped him):<br /><br />One expression was “Hollow-chested-chocolate-fingered-Rah-Rah-boys” . . . and the other was describing the “self-centered” folks of the time as “Get all I can, and Can all I get!”<br /><br />So, today, in these very discussions, we have those that will “get all they can, and ‘can’ all they get” . . . and those that are afraid to take on the issues . . . the hollow-chested-chocolate-fingered-“rah-rah” boys . . . often watching the action, cheering on the others (if forced, and put on the spot) but seldom risking getting hurt.<br /><br />Once at a "camp", I repeated the last comment to the pastor . . . and he came "un-glued" . . . Have you ever seen your "respected and dignified pastor" snort chocolate milkshake through his nose? . . . I wish I had a movie of it! And could that man laugh! They must have heard him throughout the San Bernardino Mountains from Arrowhead to Big Bear! . . . and maybe all the way down to Redlands.<br /><br />The gadfly watches . . . wonders . . . but is seldom amused!<br /><br />gadfly<br /><br />(Recent comments border on the pathetic!)gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191372920897029941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-46695888216756551482009-06-29T16:03:30.092-07:002009-06-29T16:03:30.092-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191372920897029941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-20357066354844346452009-06-29T15:19:55.900-07:002009-06-29T15:19:55.900-07:00ASMan,
It just shows a misunderstanding of how th...ASMan,<br /><br />It just shows a misunderstanding of how the service is priced.<br /><br />The exact same flight, and the exact same seat is priced differently for two differnt types of clients, anyways. It used to be, that without the premium client, there was nothing to offer the cut rate client. All the profits came from 17% of the airlines clients.<br /><br />The premium clients have gone, and now, the only way to skin the price is to do it by "features".<br /><br />Its OK if Baron wants the airlines to be the Greyhound bus service... because that is what is becoming of them.<br /><br />Anyone who really needs to go somewhere, and needs to make good use of their time flies private. This is a strong trend.<br /><br />For everyone else, there's the airlines. In the interum, you'll pay for seat cushions and toilets. Eventually, it will be just like Greyhound.airtaximanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12977944795556689805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-41233015631032156362009-06-29T15:03:06.834-07:002009-06-29T15:03:06.834-07:00Well since the airlines have totally abandoned any...Well since the airlines have totally abandoned any concept of hospitality or grace or even civilized behavior I say charge everyone for everything! In a similar vein the head of the Hampton Inns announced that there will be no more free breakfasts or afternoon cookies! "The dude who had two egg thingys in the morning was being subsidized by the guy who had only one egg thingy, and the guy who had only orange juice was subsidizing both of them. It's charge for everything from now on! Want a blankie on your bed? That will be $10 extra.airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-8615025684822089542009-06-29T14:55:16.616-07:002009-06-29T14:55:16.616-07:00Baron,
Are you saying people with modest means tr...Baron,<br /><br />Are you saying people with modest means travel without baggage, and never have to use the washroom?<br /><br />This is funny.<br /><br />I would venture to say that if enough people traveled without paying a baggage fee (no bags), there will eventually be a no baggage fee. Enough people fly without paying the toilet fee, and there will be a toilet surcharge.<br /><br />Your theory on how this works, is funny.airtaximanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12977944795556689805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-47510057481774016992009-06-29T14:49:18.996-07:002009-06-29T14:49:18.996-07:00ASman,
I sincerely think they should chage for ca...ASman,<br /><br />I sincerely think they should chage for carry-on luggage. A small bag weighing less than 8 lbs plus a jacket is the limit. The process of passengers dragging their crap on the plane and trying to saussage it into the bin is a huge waste of time. Creates frustration for everyone trying to board, and often has the last handful of boarders opening and closing bins all around the plane, finally stuffing their crap ruining someone jacket 40 rows away.<br /><br />I would venture to say that boarding and de-planing takes twice as long as it would, if carry-ons were limited in size and weight.<br /><br />Everything should be packed and stowed.airtaximanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12977944795556689805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-47965837651454820292009-06-29T13:37:40.879-07:002009-06-29T13:37:40.879-07:00"It never ceases to amaze me how some people ..."It never ceases to amaze me how some people want to dictate how others "should" spend their money."<br /><br />It never ceases to amaze me how some people want to dictate how they spend MY money!WhyTechhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08316462511388173480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-70878863162934231882009-06-29T13:29:14.423-07:002009-06-29T13:29:14.423-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.WhyTechhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08316462511388173480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-50820208743619687832009-06-29T12:56:16.905-07:002009-06-29T12:56:16.905-07:00Right on Baron! Let's not forget the fee to us...Right on Baron! Let's not forget the fee to use the fresh air vent! $5 per flight should cover it. Also charge for the reading light. Another $5 if used. The airlines are selling seats but nobody mentioned seat CUSHIONS did they? $15 per flight; fat folks pay double. I'm sure the airlines could get a prohibition similar to alcohol: "FAA regulations prohibit passengers from bringing their own seat cushions on board". And then there is actual use of the overhead bins. $10 per item to start with. In addition to the fuel surcharge there could be a "heating" and "cooling" surcharge - or usually both in the summertime! No end to it!airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-49059361842618640752009-06-29T12:21:30.000-07:002009-06-29T12:21:30.000-07:00Same for Eclipse. If some one chooses to gamble an...Same for Eclipse. If some one chooses to gamble and put a deposit on a 6,000lbs jet, that is their problem. If they think that is all the avionics, payload and range they need, that is that. They are paying with their money.<br /><br />Choice is only an issue for the cartelized, unionized, dinosaurs with excessive fixed costs. They simply would rather die than have to compete.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-47576018923668734032009-06-29T12:19:13.143-07:002009-06-29T12:19:13.143-07:00Choice People. The more the better.
You are free ...Choice People. The more the better.<br /><br />You are free to buy first class, business class, full service + extra amenities, full service plain, discount + amenities, discount plain.<br /><br />Make your choice with your wallet.<br /><br />Why do you feel the need to reduce some of the above choices for others.<br /><br />Is it better for a person of modest means to be able to find a $50 round trip ticket to visit a sick child or parent out of state, with no meals, no bags, web reservation, $3 bathroom fee, or for that person to be unable to travel, because the cheapest ticket allowed (by regulation or cartelization) is $150 and beyond his/her means?<br /><br />It never ceases to amaze me how some people want to dictate how others "should" spend their money.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-17896859313144452682009-06-29T12:04:05.329-07:002009-06-29T12:04:05.329-07:00"Perhaps the charge for life jackets on the w..."Perhaps the charge for life jackets on the way down the shoot as well?"<br /><br />And extra to actually get in the life raft!airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.com