tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post1026336231128695149..comments2023-09-17T04:46:20.879-07:00Comments on Eclipse Aviation Critic NG: Love it, loath it.Shane Pricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07181451780244241883noreply@blogger.comBlogger538125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-83364383841730728022009-02-18T13:05:00.000-08:002009-02-18T13:05:00.000-08:00In case anyone is interested the story is now up o...In case anyone is interested the story is now up on <A HREF="http://www.avweb.com/" REL="nofollow">AvWeb</A>: <BR/><BR/>Report: Eclipse Workers Sent Home "Till Further Notice"<BR/><BR/>Eclipse Aviation told its workers in Albuquerque on Wednesday to go home and not to come back until further notice, a local news station, KRQE.com, has reported. Another site, Eyewitness News 4, says a photographer reported that he could see from the street workers leaving the Eclipse plant carrying boxes. Calls to Eclipse for confirmation or further details have not yet been returned. The assets of the company were sold last month in a bankruptcy court proceeding to EclipseJet Aviation International, a subsidiary of ETIRC Aviation, for $28 million in cash plus $160 million in shares and 15-percent equity in the company for secured shareholders. When the company filed for Chapter 11 protection last November, it was estimated that Eclipse owed more than $1 billion to a long list of creditors. Last October, Forecast International, an aerospace market think tank, said it expected the company would likely cease production early in 2009. In September, the company announced the Russian government had approved construction of an assembly plant there. AVweb will post further details as they become available.Adam Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02524937335927976607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-58592736754762050032009-02-18T12:28:00.000-08:002009-02-18T12:28:00.000-08:00Sorry everyone, my humorous post was put up before...Sorry everyone, my humorous post was put up before I knew of the terminations.Jackrabbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11820210297612325172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-57152179161083398782009-02-18T12:17:00.000-08:002009-02-18T12:17:00.000-08:00New post up.Be mindful of ALL the people involved ...New post up.<BR/><BR/>Be mindful of ALL the people involved with EAC, many of whom will be saddened by todays' events, and <I>please</I> show due respect for their feelings.<BR/><BR/>ShaneShane Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181451780244241883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-19587207555791575652009-02-18T12:11:00.001-08:002009-02-18T12:11:00.001-08:00Let the dirge begin!How ‘bout “Requiem for a Falle...Let the dirge begin!<BR/><BR/>How ‘bout “Requiem for a Fallen Bird” . . . in “b flat”, minor.<BR/><BR/>gadfly<BR/><BR/>(“C” sharp, or B(e) flat!)<BR/><BR/>(or “Ode to Everybody, without any cents!”)gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13191372920897029941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-23546005544529628642009-02-18T12:11:00.000-08:002009-02-18T12:11:00.000-08:00I'm trying to understand what exactly this was...w...I'm trying to understand what exactly this was...was it Eclipse saying "we're out of business" or was it Eclipse saying "go home for now because we can't pay you, but you're still an employee" (what Eclipse did last time there was financial troubles)? From the various posts it sounds like Eclipse didn't shut down but rather said go home for now...though in the end I'm not sure if it will make a difference. It's too bad for the employees and the customers as well as the suppliers.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08301246864437379349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-4718724805593403992009-02-18T12:04:00.000-08:002009-02-18T12:04:00.000-08:00Why have there been 3,000 cars abandoned at the Du...<B> Why have there been 3,000 cars abandoned at the Dubai airport? </B><BR/><BR/>Autoblog by Dan Roth on Feb 18th, 2009 at 10:58AM<BR/><BR/><BR/>You had to know it was going to end. Dubai's storied boom is starting to falter as the worldwide economic woes catch up with the nation's real estate and financial services-fueled good times. Abandoned cars are beginning to pile up at Dubai International Airport as overextended expatriates flee. Dubai throws debtors in the pokey, and if you lose your job, they yank your visa; two good reasons to drive to the airport and leave your maxed out credit cards on the passenger seat with an "I'm sorry" note. 3,000 cars are reportedly stockpiled at the airport so far, and with reports of 1,500 visas a day being cancelled, there may be a lot of dusty, cut rate luxury cars available for closeout prices.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-81389089511690968952009-02-18T11:58:00.000-08:002009-02-18T11:58:00.000-08:00Me thinks our friend Ken was driven back home this...Me thinks our friend Ken was driven back home this morning by something other than the coffee. Maybe he got wind of the news and thought better of sunning himself down Mexico way while Eclipse is imploding....again.Delbert Gradyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06125664041806004166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-73866838212633309862009-02-18T11:54:00.000-08:002009-02-18T11:54:00.000-08:00Wow, new e-mail is humming.I am truly very sorry f...Wow, new e-mail is humming.<BR/><BR/>I am truly very sorry for everyone effected directly, unfortunately, the inderect effects will continue for months.<BR/><BR/>For those already in the inbox, I am balancing current client work with checks based on your backgrounds - keep the faith, there ARE jobs out there.ColdWetMackarelofRealityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15946506673589233990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-13895865762395121432009-02-18T11:50:00.000-08:002009-02-18T11:50:00.000-08:00There may be some significant business opportuniti...There may be some significant business opportunities now to provide ongoing support for the preemie jet fleet, such as it is. <BR/><BR/>Owners will be scrambling for assistance with parts, service, repairs, information, etc. This will require engineering, manufacturing and procurement experience from Eclipse, connections with the various suppliers/vendors, etc.<BR/><BR/>Yes, I am serious.<BR/><BR/>Who out there might be interested in doing this the right way?ColdWetMackarelofRealityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15946506673589233990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-34761780783837744462009-02-18T11:48:00.000-08:002009-02-18T11:48:00.000-08:00In typical Eclipse post-Tuesday fashion...That put...In typical Eclipse post-Tuesday fashion...<BR/><BR/>That puts them under a 1-2week time pressure before the 363 unravels definitively. <BR/><BR/>Tough Break - Too Bad!<BR/><BR/>Question is, will the creditors have the balls to press for liquidation or will they agree to be strung along, and along, and along by RP.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-52461831523426169882009-02-18T11:40:00.000-08:002009-02-18T11:40:00.000-08:00Confirmed by my former lead in NM....he will be ca...Confirmed by my former lead in NM....he will be calling from his house in an haour or so and I will gett more particulars then..eclipsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11539880484640754973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-40437429101199318522009-02-18T11:37:00.000-08:002009-02-18T11:37:00.000-08:00Well we're getting close to my self-imposed deadli...Well we're getting close to my self-imposed deadline for solving the world's economic problems. Since no one has offered THE solution, I will offer my own.<BR/><BR/>After careful consideration, calling upon years of experience, it is clear to me that the 'Critics' blog hosts a hidden resource that the world desperately needs. Ken, I humbly beseech you shrill ..uh, evangelize on behalf of failing companies everywhere.<BR/><BR/>Ken, we 'Critics' stand in awe at your powers of (self) persuasion and we can no longer selfishly monopolize your talents when the fate of the world hangs in the balance. Banks, Autos and other companies NEED your support.<BR/><BR/>Fred, as budgets are tight, perhaps you will consider translating Ken's message of joy to the world.<BR/><BR/>PS Ken, the Obama administration is preparing your nda.Jackrabbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11820210297612325172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-38637660243142062022009-02-18T11:32:00.000-08:002009-02-18T11:32:00.000-08:00Rather than push things through Shane, I've setup ...Rather than push things through Shane, I've setup an e-mail for any former Eclipser's looking for potential work.<BR/><BR/>ColdWetMack@gmail.com<BR/><BR/>I may be able to make recommendations for contract houses as well as being aware of specific positions at various programs around the country and internationally.ColdWetMackarelofRealityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15946506673589233990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-22273182064626139302009-02-18T11:24:00.000-08:002009-02-18T11:24:00.000-08:00Like the death of someone you knew, whether you li...Like the death of someone you knew, whether you liked them or disliked them, its OVER. With the spirit of a person that shared a beautiful life with the world, rememberance will live forever in a positive light. With ECorpse, all that will remain is hatred, hatred and more hatred. Towards the Wedge, RP, MM, PB, et all.<BR/><BR/>No service, no parts, no company. Ken, take your "trophy" airplane and realize that it was no trophy.GettingReady2FileSuithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10249205948745671099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-268205072812562992009-02-18T11:21:00.000-08:002009-02-18T11:21:00.000-08:00Shafted,If true I am very sorry to hear that, even...Shafted,<BR/><BR/>If true I am very sorry to hear that, even though it has been totally expected. <BR/><BR/>Disruption of so many lives has always been the danger lurking in the nearly assured failure of this venture.<BR/><BR/>I know I speak for the majority that we wish those effected nothing but the best.<BR/><BR/>As I have offered before - if any are looking for work I am happy to provide what assistance I can if Shane can work as intermediary.ColdWetMackarelofRealityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15946506673589233990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-32847346908965384302009-02-18T11:14:00.000-08:002009-02-18T11:14:00.000-08:00Eclipse closed the doors today, laid everyone off....Eclipse closed the doors today, laid everyone off. They were told that they would get paid this week for the past two weeks but this week was a freebie... Saw it coming a long time ago.....<BR/>As usual, the blog was right on "AGAIN"....Shafted Again...!https://www.blogger.com/profile/02616947325281510493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-4828476941469193682009-02-18T11:11:00.000-08:002009-02-18T11:11:00.000-08:00at least he's being honest... the coffee made him ...at least he's being honest... the coffee made him have to pee...airtaximanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12977944795556689805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-91639102289193425022009-02-18T10:23:00.000-08:002009-02-18T10:23:00.000-08:00"Meanwhile, the brash, 58-year-old financier sough..."Meanwhile, the brash, 58-year-old financier sought to get a one-way flight out of the U.S. to Antigua, CNBC reported Wednesday. Citing an unnamed source in the private jet industry, CNBC said Stanford contacted a private jet owner Tuesday and attempted to pay for the flight with a credit card, but was refused because the company would only accept a wire transfer."<BR/><BR/>These dudes never fly coach, do they? Or stay and face the music. The Stanford bank was a big supporter of the yachtie race week every year in Antigua.airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-69980753976659837862009-02-18T10:13:00.000-08:002009-02-18T10:13:00.000-08:00Ken, What happened?Forget your golf clubs?http://f...<I>Ken, <BR/><BR/>What happened?<BR/><BR/>Forget your golf clubs?<BR/><BR/>http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N85SM/<BR/>history/20090218/1540Z/E25/MMCN<BR/><BR/>February 18, 2009 9:21 AM <BR/>Ken Meyer said... <BR/>No, it was the Colombian coffee.<BR/><BR/>Ken</I><BR/><BR/>No, i figure its more likely fear of the federal police arresting Ken for arriving in Mexico with a full "bacon strip" application due to a complete failure of the PFD/MFDs.GettingReady2FileSuithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10249205948745671099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-23366828350895247512009-02-18T10:09:00.000-08:002009-02-18T10:09:00.000-08:00Fred: where we disagree while so many were congrat...Fred: <I>where we disagree while so many were congratulating themselves of being in the only place worth being in , and being so clever ...</I><BR/><BR/>I didn't disagree with you. In fact I recognized that the problem has a social/cultural dimension.<BR/><BR/><I>to the point that i am not sure the rest of the world see the salvation of USA as the salvation of the world ...</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, the world economy is less dependent, and many resent the US but I'd bet that the world is still dependent *enough* that a US recovery is necessary for a world recovery.<BR/><BR/>There has been a lot of talk of "decoupling" of US and world economies and a move away from US$ as reserve currency yet the deep US recession has pulled down in the rest of the world and 'flight to quality' is still into USD (even if many see that as nonsensical). So I think that this time around a US recovery is still necessary for a global recovery. Maybe it will be different in the next recession.<BR/><BR/>She's out of my league. But I like a challenge. It would help if I could tell her how we have saved the world today!Jackrabbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11820210297612325172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-43009774015419526572009-02-18T10:04:00.000-08:002009-02-18T10:04:00.000-08:00Ken I have to give you kudo's for such a good natu...Ken I have to give you kudo's for such a good natured and damn funny response. I am still laughing out loud.ColdWetMackarelofRealityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15946506673589233990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-61412838707994468752009-02-18T10:01:00.000-08:002009-02-18T10:01:00.000-08:00Actually the EA500 would be pretty useful for othe...Actually the EA500 would be pretty useful for other columbian exports.FreedomsJamtartshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18240818544017409683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-25392843890973957022009-02-18T09:54:00.000-08:002009-02-18T09:54:00.000-08:00No, it was the Colombian coffee.KenNo, it was the Colombian coffee.<BR/><BR/>KenKen Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18308335985703210568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-55823976511960315832009-02-18T09:21:00.000-08:002009-02-18T09:21:00.000-08:00Ken, What happened?Forget your golf clubs?http://f...Ken, <BR/><BR/>What happened?<BR/><BR/>Forget your golf clubs?<BR/><BR/>http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N85SM/<BR/>history/20090218/1540Z/E25/MMCNstanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00742392783800028368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3817101653623448889.post-84294580711672883752009-02-18T09:06:00.000-08:002009-02-18T09:06:00.000-08:00yes , jack ...the problems (with a lot of S at end...yes , jack ...<BR/><BR/>the problems (with a lot of S at end!) are multiform , very various and most problematic VERY deep ...<BR/><BR/>saying that today downturn is only a financial crisis would be like saying " 10 minutes before he died , he was still alive ...!"<BR/><BR/>it has to be taken from a certain point = that is already a big change , not long ago anyone saying so was labeled "terrorist, anti-american ,etc..."<BR/><BR/>will it become ugly ? yes , that is probably one of the only thing which can be promised now ...<BR/><BR/>will you get over it ? yes , surely , with times , lots of efforts and a massive dose of humility ...!!<BR/><BR/>where we disagree : while so many were congratulating themselves of being in the only place worth being in , and being so clever ...<BR/><BR/>the world has evolved ... a lot !<BR/><BR/>to the point that i am not sure the rest of the world see the salvation of USA as the salvation of the world ...<BR/><BR/>kind of : you need us , we need you ... we can do without you , can you ? <BR/><BR/>have a good diner ...! (hope she is real cute !!! ;-)) )fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144753596502433091noreply@blogger.com